I was looping at the various options for silent recording and the power load ir seems close but not quite there. I have an OxBox but I wish it hard a stereo effects loop where the effects lead to the IR but instead the stereo effects loop only sends effects to the headphone out which the manual says you can run to a mixer but then you have to find a separate IR. The new 2 Notes Reload II has a stereo effects loop but no IR’s and it has a built in power amp that I just don’t need. I have a lot of stereo pedals and I’d like to use them instead of adding effects to my guitar via plugins in my DAW. Am I issuing a device that can do this? I have a few effects that can be run in line level so I guess I could run a mono IR into my line level pedals and then into my DAW but I’d prefer to not do that either. Surely there must be an IR load box with a stereo effects loop but I haven’t found one so if you know of one I’d like to check it out and if anybody from Fryette reads this please consider this as an update or even a mod to the existing unit. Thanks!
Hi Louder,
Most products out there are going to be designed with a single solution to a single problem. They may have solutions for other things that are byproducts of the design, but not usually the intended feature. I’m sure there are a lot of players that “print” their effects to a track, but most producers will try to get you away from doing that so effects can be brought in in post. Kind of what you were talking about earlier. Running two effects loops, and two separate IR’s within one unit isn’t impossible, it just doesn’t have many professional uses until it does. When there is an abundance of professional players that need to re-amplify their head, in stereo, with stereo effects, and they also need to go out to the front of house using IR’s while maintaining stage volume. Then we will see that product. I hope that helps a little bit.
Thank You,
Terry
There is hope since two notes added on the Reload II which is designed for reamping DI’d guitars. I’m also seeing more and more players sell their modelers and tracking guitars with IR load boxes so I’m hoping someone that makes a quality unit that can handle the power and have the impedance that matches a real cab will add a stereo loop to differentiate themselves from a dozen other products that all have the same feature set. As a guitar player, the way I pick, my vibrato etc how close I stand to my amp and how I choose to move further away are all influenced by my complete tone which is impossible to account for when effects are printed later
I’m old school when it comes to tracking whether it’s for my own bands/projects or when I record others in that I massively prefer to not only print core effects (delay, phase, flange, fuzz, wah and even specialized reverbs) but I also track full bands in the same room and let the mics bleed on the rooms and overheads. I think the difference in the performance is so much more important (if you have musicians that know each other well and have plenty of live experience together) that it more than makes up for pristinely tracked and isolated parts which I feel actually hurts the music but I’m an outlier. I don’t like click tracks except for maybe a count-in, I don’t “tune” vocals and I don’t align to the grid. I think it’s worth it to have bands on really knowing the material so you get all the dynamic interplay with each other he being mindful with how you set them up in a room and choosing the right mics to minimize phase issues. Thankfully I see a few younger producers and engineers doing it this way so it’s not totally a lost art.
Hi Louder,
So just to keep this clean and uncomplicated, I would say the PL-IR would work just fine in your case. It has stereo returns for its effects and doesn’t have a power amplifier built into it that you don’t need. Yes, you’re going to have to use the Headphone output with a stereo TRS to dual TS cable to go out to your DAW, but it does solve the issue you were speaking of.
I always liked the way the OxBox looked, I just never cared for how it felt or sounded. That is 100% my opinion. It’s something I would buy broken for cheap and place on my wall because it’s aesthetically pleasing. I think the load in the PL-IR is way better and the IR’s are more my cup of tea. <---- Again, opinion.
We just want you to be able to get on with making music. The more you’re having to sit and think about all of this gear, the more time you’re not spending playing or creating. The PL-IR is the practical solution for your needs. It may not be how anyone here would use it, but it will work and we want you to be able to do your thing, the way you want to do your thing.
Thank You,
Terry