PS-2A Power amp has no sound

So my PS-2A line outs function direct to Logic work fine. It has been used primarily with no speaker hooked up, as a load only and running it to my interface into Logic with IR’s.

Hooked a speaker up to it for the first time in quite awhile and at first it worked fine. With the volume control all the way down there was still some signal, which I thought was strange. Unit was in operate mode. Now there is no output at the speaker at all. Unit is on and in operate, amp speaker out to amp in, speaker cab hooked up to Speaker Out jack. Tubes are lit up, no sound out of the speaker.
Any thoughts?
Thanks, George

Hi @Greazygeo :tada: and welcome to the community,

Thanks for describing the setup so well, it really helps.

Firstly, the signal that you hear when the volume is on zero is not coming from the speaker, it the coming from the transformers.

If the volume knob has not been turned for a long time it should be build up of oxidation. One way to fix this is to turn the post all the way to the left and right many times.

Otherwise, your power station might need a service. Hopefully someone from Fryette or the community can also give their opinion.

Thanks for the response Dan. The zero-ed volume amp sound was definately coming from the speakers. I know what you are referring to as the “buzzy” loadbox resistor sounds. Using it primarily as the loadbox direct ir method, pretty used to that.

Hmm. So there is no signal to the speaker at all! If you have checked all the stupid things like cables etc. which I am sure you have already done. I cannot think of anything else but getting it serviced.

What do you think @DavidPhelge @Paul @JohnTheConqueroo?

Hi George,

If you’re getting sound in Bypass mode and no sound in Operate mode, look for a blown DC fuse inside the unit.

Here’s a tutorial with all of the info on that subject including links below the video with fuse specs and recommended replacement tubes.

Yep, tried amp to cab directly with same cable and that works fine. Also tried the line input and no sound. Unit on bypass, there is sound from cab.
When using the line outs and no speaker attached the unit has always been powered up, so the fan is running. Can’t remember if I checked to see it the fan was running….hmm.

Thanks David. I will check the video/ fuse when I get home later.

The fuse was blown, replaced it and all was well. Later that week using it, sound changed and bass went away. Checking it out, one power tube was glowing cherry red. Popped in a new set and working fine.

With the volume all the way down, should the speaker still have sound? It is loud enough I can record with it.

Hi @Greazygeo glad you resolved this.

I’ve noticed the sound from my PS-2 when the volume is all the way down, it was mainly coming from the transformer. This is not something I have encountered before. Is anything connected to the FX loop? What happens if you disconnect that? Otherwise it could be a fault or aging pot, you could try and clean it? Do a few full turns left and then right too and see if that makes a difference.

It is definitely coming from the speaker. It is the normal distored guitar sound. My cab is in another room and mic’d.
There is the normal transformer/ load resistor buzzing while playing in the control room.
It isn’t a big deal or anything, just thought the PS-2 volume control should kill the sound from the speaker.

Ok thanks for confirming.

Do you think the signal you are hearing could be coming from the FX in the loop or a line in? Just to eliminate all possibilities.

If not then, yes, sounds like the pot might be faulty.

  • do some full turn of the pot, the might help clear any debris
  • Clean with pot cleaner if you have?

After that the options are to get a replacement pot or send it in for repair.

Unless I have missed something? Maybe someone else can chime in if so.

Sorry I forgot to mention, nothing is hooked to the fx loop. Just amp to amp in…speaker out to cab. XLR out to interface. I have removed the xlr cable to eliminate that.

I can try rotating the pot and or cleaning it.

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Tried cleaning the volume potentiometer, still not shutting all the way off on zero. Now it is intermittently jumping up and down in volume. Removed the PS2 from the signal path, just using the amplifier / cab and no issues.

Hi @Greazygeo

Thanks for coming back with the info. The only other cleaning I would recommend would be tube sockets and jack sockets using solvent cleaner like IPA (isopropyl alcohol). If that does not help then I think you could try replacing the pot?

Regards,

Dan

Finally took the time and cleaned the pots and tube sockets. Played it a bit and did not notice any volume jumping up and down. Now it just sounds very muddy. Even with depth, presence on zero and volume below 9:00 with both switches on flat. Bypass the PS-2 and amp sounds normal.
Maybe bias is way off somehow? It was not muddy before the cleaning.

Hi,

Do you have any audio clips so we can hear the difference? The cleaning for the pot, which you already did, was just to check if that would help you get better off-ness. The socket cleaning was trying to eliminate an intermittant contact because you mentioned volume jumping.

This is now starting to sound like something else to me. How many hours do you have on the tubes?

Regards,

Dan

Very few on the tubes. Installed them after blowing the fuse earlier. After leaving the PS2 on for half hour on standby, it must have reset the bias. The muddiness is gone.
It still won’t go silent, and after cleaning the pots, they are very loose feeling and are easily moved. It will most likely need all three replaced.

Oh new tubes after the others blew fuses? Sounds good.

This is unusual, I cannot think of a way that tubes make the sound go from being muddy to fine.

I hear a little volume when I play in a quiet room too, like music is playing through a head phone somewhere. This might not be fixable, because it seems to be common.

How did the cleaning go? I was suggesting a few squirts of IPA gentle scrubbing with something like a tooth brush to get any dirty out. Sometimes if using different tubes this can happen as the pins are subtly different widths.

Regards

Dan

There is always a small amount of volume in the room even with the pots completely turned off. I have seen the same with every Power Station I have used. It is normal. Believe me I asked.