Noise when touching “amp in” cable or increasing gain and volume

Hello,

Not sure if these are two different noises or both originating from the same place. But when I have the volume pretty high and then add a good amount of gain I get this noise seen in the video I attached a link to.

I also notice that when I touch the cable on the “amp in” on the back of the Fryette it goes pretty crazy with the noise as well. Want to see if this is a legitimate corncern or normal

https://youtu.be/H0tOgD1cKvc?si=rR8_vM7bbd6RkRe5Fryette squeal

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This is happening to me also!! Hope someone can help us.

Frankly, quite disappointed that this is what customer service has been reduced to with Fryette. I prefer the old days where you would email them and they would reply directly… this is dissapointing

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I mean, at risk of sounding like a Fryette defender or fanboy (which I’m really not), it kinda makes sense. Just like email support, you ask a question here, they post a response. And that documentation is now publicly available for all to see and it could benefit other people which is really nice for everyone.

I hope they get back to both of you soon.

calis

Generally there are two types of squeal:

  • Magnetic coupling
  • Ground loop

This video shows the magnetic coupling (this is like the feedback you get when you have single-coil pickups too close to the amp). The power station also has magnetic components; if it is placed too close (or in a specific noise spot), you can get the same thing:

However, this sounds more like a ground loop because of high volume and gain.

Watch Joe’s video above and that should help.

Yes but that still didn’t answer the “amp in” cable issue.

I would expect a clicking/popping sound in the audio if the socket had a disconnection issue.

Ground loops are complicated (Joe does a great job in the video of making it seem simple). Subtle things can change how the problem manifests and the frequency of oscillation. What you are seeing are probably some complicated thing involving parasitic capacitance and inductance. If you solve the ground loop with an isolator, then this issue will go away also.

Hi Dan,

I bought the Pyle device but it is a horrible product, it cut down the volume and gain by half. It’s not usable on my rig because of this issue. I returned to Amazon the same day I got it.

I also discovered that if I remove the pedalboard from the fx loop in the Fryette, all of the noises I described in the video disappear. The moment I plug the board back in the loop the noise comes back… what could that mean?

That makes perfect sense, It means it’s a ground loop.

Never used a Pyle, I guess it’s an isolator? Did you try that in your FX loop?

Yeah, the Pyle PHE300 or whatever , that’s the one that Joe recommends in that video. I am shocked that he didn’t talk about how it would cut your gain in half…

you put the pyle unit in between your pedal board and the ps-2 fx loop send/return? I don’t know why that would affect the gain of your amp.

Don’t know, try it and see

Also, if you use that in the FX loop, gain should not be too much of an issue because you can always adjust the level?

I figured out that is use a separate power supply with the pedals I have in front of the amp, all of the issues I presented in the video above, disappear. For some weird reason if I have both; the pedals in front of the amp and the pedals in the fx loop all connected to the same isolated power supply I get the high pitch annoying noise. Nothing wrong with the Fryette at all!